One reason I always loved playtesting against my girlfriend is because of her favourite Fire deck. By all means it wouldn't get high ratings if I posted it on here (she runs cards like numinous healer), but it burns, and it burns good, and she is very familiar with the best way to abuse it. From the get-go I was on the defensive.

The current meta resembles this, with its aggressive play. And my first duels were very reminescent of losing to the gf with my beta decks. That's when I got a first sketch in my mind of my underdog deck, the deck that gives me more options when I'm losing.

First things I tossed were things with a hefty lifepoint cost that failed to show advantage at any given time, like confiscation. Then I dumped ring of destruction. I had it in every deck since it came back, and I've not been able to use it, cause my LP were always lower.

Rates and fixes are extremely welcome, but could I kindly ask everyone that feels the need to fix this to keep the theme in mind and give a reason why I should run a particular fix. Especially if you are recommending cookie cards.

One cookie I AM considering is cyber dragon, because he is a card that will help the theme, I'd like to get two in, but I don't know what to side out. I was thinking of night assailant (with only the slate warriors, it has no real use otherwise). But what else ? Don't want to side out too many fiends, don't want to lose a potentially useful card.

For those that don't get the point : megamorph is the pivotal card. I have a few good attackers with downsides, you know them, GEAF and giant orc. If you can equip either with megaorph when you are on the defensive and then trib them for great maju garzett, you get an 8800 Attacker on the field. Late game, that is a very feasible play. But I'm not putting all my eggs in one basket. As I get to a point where I can equip megamorph to gain ATK, I can even use newdoria, breaker or a giant germ to trigger deck devastation virus, a well timed wing wind blast can spin a monarch when an opponent has next to no hand, all leading up to a major kill supported with trunades, storm, Tornado's and vortexes.

yes, funnily enough, I DO get away with discard costs easily. To each his own I guess. The necrofears take away the bitterness of a painful discard too ...

Breaker the magical warrior
Dark Necrofear
Dark Necrofear
Giant Germ
Giant Germ
Giant Germ
Giant orc
Giant Orc
Giant orc
Goblin Elite Attack force
Goblin Elite Attack force
Goblin Elite Attack force
Great Maju Garzett
Great maju Garzett
Great maju garzett
Newdoria
Newdoria
Night Assailant
Sangan
Slate Warrior
Slate Warrior

Brain Control
Giant Trunade
Graceful Charity
Heavy STorm
Lightning Vortex
Lightning Vortex
Megamorph
Megamorph
Megamorph
Monster reincarnation
Mystical SPace Typhoon
Rush Recklessly

Deck Devastation Virus
Deck Devsatation Virus
Divine WRath
Dust Tornado
Dust Tornado
Phoenix Wing Wind Blast
Phoenix Wing Wind Blast
Ultimate offering

What I especially like is that megamorph is never a dead draw. In case of the offensive advantage, just equip an opponents monster with it to make it lose half its ATK.

You'd like to use cards that become better when you start losing... I'd suggest using The Fiend Megacyber over Cyber Dragon in that it can trigger DDV and easily techs the first turn Cyber + set/summon Reaper that a lot of people hold to.

There is also the fact that you CAN special summon Megacyber when you have a monster on the field. It's priceless to watch sometimes.

I'd drop a Night Assailant and a copy of Great Maju Garzett for two of them. Night Assailant because you are only running two other flip effect monsters and one Great Maju because running five tribute monsters and two Dark Necrofear seems like it could leave you with bad hands often.

Book of Moon does many more things than Rush Recklessly, thus it seems to be simply a plain upgrade in terms of effectiveness.


If I didn't know that it would produce a protest from you I'd suggest running a pair or more of Dark Scorpion- Meanae the Thorn in order to recoup some of your losses from discard costs. Her 1000 atk means that you could Megamorph (or use Garzett on) her and sack her for DDV.

I'd test them over the Slate Warriors given that you've currently got 18 fiend monsters and over the course of any game you'd only need to remove six (nine if you used Monster Reincarnation on Dark Necrofear). The sheer amount of discard costs that you're using means that you'd never have to worry about fiends sitting in your hand instead of the grave.

Monsters 21
1 Breaker the magical warrior
2 Dark Necrofear
2 The Fiend Megacyber
2 Great Maju Garzett
3 Giant Germ
3 Giant Orc
3 Goblin Elite Attack force
2 Newdoria
1 Sangan
2 Slate Warrior (maybe Meanae the Thorn)

Spells 12
1 Brain Control --> Another one might be a good idea.
1 Giant Trunade
1 Graceful Charity
1 Heavy Storm
2 Lightning Vortex
3 Megamorph
1 Monster Reincarnation
1 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Book of Moon

Traps 8
2 Deck Devsatation Virus
1 Divine Wrath --> Forced Back would be a good alternative w/o discard.
2 Dust Tornado
2 Phoenix Wing Wind Blast --> Have you tried using Raigeki Break over this?
1 Ultimate offering

41 cards

The main thing that I'd be worried about would b drawing into bad hands. Since Yugioh has no mulligan rule you could be totally boned.

thanks for the suggestions. Megacyber may indeed be preferable. The deck idea can afford a few bad hands, in fact it sort of relies on a few bad opening hands to build up momentum.

The necrofears are actually in there because of the discards i use, I can afford the discard, but the idea was "why not make them useful". The heavy trib is also not an issue. Otherwise cydra would have been the better choice. Don't forget I can just discard my tribs as well. As the options amass as the game progresses, you only need one or two good hits to close the game. In the mean time, the discard cards keep me alive, and the opponent on his toes.

The meanea's aren't a bad idea, but since I see no need to recupe my discarded cards, I don't think they'll find their way to the main deck.

I tried a second brain control for one of the vortexes, but it didn't pay off that much, but I think it was more the loss of the vortex, so I'll side out book of moon for it instead. I'll let you know how it works.

Phoenix works over raigeki, because its better to stay alive if you can spin a trib monster, taking away their draw, than it is to simply remove the threat.

Divine wrath is my favourite card, so that stays just for good luck :)

Now just find someone to trade for a megacyber :)

Thus the 'come from behind' part of the deck, eh? I think that it's usually best to not be behind in the first place, but it's your choice. It sorta reminds me of a suicide deck I saw a while ago.


The general idea of Meanae is to act as a replacement for the cards that you would discard, thus eliminating your need to discard important things like Megamorph or other, more useful monsters.

That said, it is your deck and if it fits you well then go for it.

Megacyber was reprinted as a regular rare in one of the Dark Beginnings or Dark Revelations sets. That should help a bit.

how about -1 great maju, +1 ha des.

I'd like to fit in a ha des, I love him as a monarch-killer and a recruiter-slayer, but not at the expense of great maju.

You guys think that I should attempt to get a big bang shot in ? With the sheer attack power of the deck, it could make a difference to slash through a chump blocker.

yes, if you are using this against a burn deck, my guess is that stall and set monsters are kind of a powerful tool for your girlfriend there. Big Bang Shot could help a bit.

I know Im targetting your theme card here, but I don't like 3 Great Maju Garzette. I would be more inclined to trade one for a Dark Jeroid.

Also, considering that you are running so many powerful attackers, look into Pole Position. It helps to make them immune to most things. If you end up with NOT the largest monster in town, you can destroy it with a removal effect, take their monster out and clear the field more for a more satisfactory punch with Orc/GEAF/GMG.

I'll give it a shot, but I'm partial to the great maju.

Pole position is definitely a good idea. I'll try that out. With any luck I can use it to keep my monsters safe until I can set DDV, and when I lose pole, I can trigger DDV and start building again. That's the best idea I've heard for this deck in a while. Considering I'm taking this up against burn and aggro mostly, I'll be up against triple decree's and a bunch of spells anyway.

Dammit, First try with 2 copies of pole position in the deck and I created a loop. The three copies of megamorph aren't exactly synergystic with the pole positions.

LOL! That's brilliant.:devious: :rolleyes: the loop did occur to me, but I would have thought that you would have seen that coming and played it a bit conservatively.:laugh:

Oh, well. Sorry about that.

I may just use one copy, to avoid it being a bad topdeck. I like the idea though, its just that with two copies, it really seems to come up together with the morph's a lot.

It's a killer move though if I get a Giant orc with megamorph, trib him away for maju garzett and then flip a pole position.