I been looking around on prices on MWDA singles and have noticed that everywhere I've looked the mech (ELH) rifleman (CA 109 I believe) has been sold out. Its not a bad mech... better I think then the other versions.

What do ya guys think?

Me, I think it's a pile. It's over 200 points, and it doesn't go higher than a 9 attack and 20 defense. =/

I like the ELH version (my favorite Merc. Regiment, after all). That
said, at 16 points more, the Stormhammer version does what the
ELH version does. Only better. ;)

But the Stormhammer version has a horriable heat dial

I think it is merely OK as far as Mechs go. I do like the damage output this Mech has because of its AP and Pulse SE's. Two targets on both weapons is nice as well. The AnP later in the Mech's dial is interesting and it seems to give the unit some decent utility even after it has been beaten up.

A 9 Attack is decent, but nothing to write home about. Heat Dial is fairly decent as well.

On the flip side though, this unit's defense is rather meager for a unit over 200 points in cost. The Heavy Armor is a nice touch, but it doesn't last long and its utility in actual play is often questionable. The Rifleman is also pretty darn slow. . . making it more of a chore to bring its guns to bear. A 12" range is average these days since there are a whole mess of things that outrange you now.

In a game where you could afford to play on the defensive (ie. no artillery), this Mech would do all right. Still, I can name off several Mechs that are cheaper and would fill the role of "slow, defensive Mech" much better. . . but that is another opinion.

Um, NO...20 Deffence on a mech that's 206+ Points is BAAAAAAAD!

Mid :(

Yeah, that 20 defense is this unit's killer flaw. A pity they couldn't have dropped the Heavy Armor in favor of a higher defensive rating instead.

Case in point - Melicien Tetro! :rolleyes:

Armour piercing and pulse are nice only when you can actually hit something. The Merc Rifleman is pretty bleh.

The SH version is slow and has bad heat.
The SW version is typical of SW.
The Liao version never misses, but is slow and has short range.

Overall the riflemen are pretty bleh and not very viable.

So very, sadly true. You would think that Hardened Armor would be more of a asset, but it isn't when paired with a low defense.

What looks good on paper doesn't necessarily perform well on the table.

Of course, somethings don't even look good on paper. . . :rolleyes:

yep the biggest flaw with the rifleman is they should have been an AA mech.

OK, how many times does the dead-horse-Rifleman AA-deal have to beaten?

This is NOT the traditional Rifleman, built for making mincemeat of flying stuff. This one is packing dual RAC5's, which aren't known for range. Also, it lacks the targeting computer that made it an AA Mech in CBT. Other versions have it. This one doesn't.

in a high pont no arty game put the Liao Shockwave next to any rifleman and make him have the D-Fence the he should

The Liao Rifleman acutally has IT.....

Even though it's short for it's range, it's a good mech.

The SW Rifleman is far better. Wanna arty it? Go ahead .. it can take 2 good hits from an A4 and be pretty much on its sweet spot. Same goes for charging it. This unit is kinda like some of the critters in MK Dungeons. Ya either need to about kill it in one hit from its starting point or else you want to avoid it entirely. Just simply hitting it for average damage is NOT a good idea. :)