http://www.wizkidsgames.com/wk_artic...frame=Ourgames

Looks like Wizkids got a license for Lord of the Rings and is doing an epic-scale wargame using the styrene thing again. Will be interesting to see if the whole styrene wargame thing catches on... certainly cheaper than CMGs and absolutely cheaper than Warhammer and such.

Anybody have any info on the game? Will there be subfactions (a Rohan army compared to a Gondor army, for example)?

Heh. Would be amusing if it was on the same scale as the pirates game.

"Lo, the Corsairs of the Carrib! Er... I mean Umbar! The Corsairs of Umbar!"

I saw that. I really like he idea. It will be cool 2 really have a hundred riders of rohan instead of the one or 2 in the minature game. I will try it.

Oh, WOW! Maybe I should save the money I'm planning on spending on Pirates and save it for that...but I don't know...I think a pirate game'll be a lot of fun! But this seems to have a lot more depth in it tactics-wise...instead of having ~5 Ships max (I suppose that'll be how it'll be) we can expect large-scale battles, with a lot of units, allowing for flexibility and strategy to prevail. I wonder how big a single 'infantry' piece will be...is one 'card' going about the size of a Relic? If so, then those will be rather tiny infantry...and might make it hard to keep track of units/not lose them.

Ugh.

Coolies

I bought the Z-card game to play with my 5 year old neighbor. He can count and roll dice. I had to remind him of the rules.

He could not punch out the cards without breaking some piece. I ended up putting all the pieces together.

Z-cards in general did not sell well at all. The local store still has them for sale and no one is buying. At least WK is not laying out lots of money making this game. The profit margin must be huge.

I'm not going to buy any for the next year. The price will drop after the last movie comes out on extended DVD in the 4Q 2004.

I can't imagine these styrene pieces being nearly as durable as the 3-D plastic. It's kind of sad, because I could see myself getting heavily into a LOTR epic game, but w/ plastic figures, not cardboard cutouts. WK seems to be going away from that and into the "my board whacks your board" gaming system. Oh well, more money to be spent on Warmachine.

It's not styrofoam, is styrene... like credit card material I think.

the styrene games seem a little questionable to me....
a MWDA/MK figure is detailed enough that, i dunno, it can be taken seriously as anything but a toy. The styrene card things are pretty flimsy and generally just look to me like they could be made in your home printer on cardboard just as easily as wizkids is printing them in their factories. It just seems like with MWDA you are paying (I will admit you are paying more) for a service exclusive to wizkids. That is, the manufacturing of the 3d game pieces. What is to keep people from simply scanning these things and putting them online, and someone printing them on cardboard. Voila! Why should I pay them $5.00 a pack for something I can make at home for the nominal fee of paper/cardboard and ink? I'm not saying I am gonna do this, I'm just saying the styrene cutouts really don't look like a professionally executed product in the same way that the other miniatures do.

GW and Sabertooth has all the miniatures license thing going on. For WK, this is probably the only way for them to work on a LOTR game.

I am sitting here with a styrene card and it does not want to break. It is very durable, much more so than cardboard. I would play it but I do not like LoTR or the whole fantasy thing. I would like to see a modern war gem like the epic LoTR game though. Youd have stuff like M1A1 Abram Armor section, M16 standard infantry platoon, Howitzer battery 155mm and Blackbird wing(Single plane plus a wingman or two). That would be awesome!!!!

Or how abouts this, a Final Fantasy clix game. It could feature the reg jobs in green, veteran and elite plus uniques would be heros such as Ramza Beoulve or Cloud Strife.

I would like to observe a moment of silence for the deceased.

RIP Wizkids Credibitliy (2000-2004)
"He came, he saw, he toyed with the game and screwed it all up"

This is great,

1st thing, epic level game for inexpensive entry cost

2nd, cool proven license

3rd, very cool display collectible.

WIZKIDS...KUDOS to YOU!