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Clan Jade Falcon - Kinnol MBT
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Clan Jade Falcon - Panther
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You know, the stats on that Panther actually look like a Panther's (besides the pulse of course).

I wonder what the MBT is going to look like.

Okay... from those sneak peeks... JF has average range/movement and such, quite good targeting, good damage, good heat dials (especially on the special clan designs), bad defense. Also, both the new previews have SE, then when they run out of damage SE, they get IT (a trend?).

The MBT is just odd for damage... hmm... 60 points for 2 damage... solid though.

Interesting. Thanks Draddog! :classic:

4 inches on the Ballistic on the Panther? Whats he shooting? Small arms from the cockpit?

Maybe some kind of SRM.

that tank looks interesting.

I just hope they dont give any JF units point defence - JF needs to be a dynamic, swift attacking army, not a Uber-turtle army.

a panther with 4 pulse is nasty...... evil kick on a light mech there

Forget the ballistic. 4 damage with Pulse for a Panther?!?! Since when do light scout mechs do as much damage as an Atlas?

The tank. 2 damage with AP for a 60-some pt. tank?? I can think of several infantry that cost less than 1/3 of that point cost that do the same damage or MORE with AP.

And what is with suddenly getting IT part way down the dial?? Did the Mechwarrior forget to turn on his targeting computer before running off in to battle? WTF?

*shakes head in disgust*

Already looks disappointing.

2 damage on a 60+ point tank?? I thought the JES series was bad.

18 defense on an 8 speed, 12 range, 120 point Panther? Looks like more bumper-bots to me. This thing is going to get charged and rammed all the time.

Maybe the pilot is throwing rocks out of the cockpit. ;)

I can almost guarantee you that the Kinnol MBT is a 3-cap transport...just sounds very transport-ish. However, that MBT probably stands for 'Mobile Battle Tank' or something, and it could just turn out that it's just a really bad tank, instead of my highly-optimistic outlook. I can't wait until someone decides that that was a statement of fact... Also, that Panther is a little crazy, 10 attack, 0-12" range with a possible 4-damage Pulse? Nasty, I'd say, for 120 points. It also has a great heat dial, and has the same longetivity/defense as many other Light 'Mechs. If combined with the Jade Falcon faction abilities, it could be a killer (Well, I don't know what they are, but if this figure is eligible to have them, it'll make an already okay piece better). But why the heck are CJF getting a Panther? It just sounds sort of funny...

A panther is a scout mech...so 18 defense is about right. people we don't even really know what the JF faction abilities are yet, yes we have rumors but they are just that. rumors. I still think there is hope for this set. as for getting Improved targeting halfway through the dial. helps them hit more :devious: we only have a preview for three units, do not get pesimistic just from these two new previews (yes I know for a Main Battle Tank 2 damage AP is a little low...) then again this is a forum...and what do people mostly do on forums is vent/flame about the flaws? Quiaff?

MBT stands for Main Battle Tank. They are NOT transports. Usually, MBTs are very powerful (i.e. able to core a mech with one shot a la the :^^^: Schmitt). This one is about as powerful as an infantry piece. Looks like Jade Falcons will have ####py vehicles and good mechs like a real clan would after all.

Meanwhile, the Panther has decent offensive capability for 120 points, but many light mechs from CA put it to shame. Heck, even infantry will be able to kill it most of the time.

Hey, im happy...finially some units my Highlanders can hit!

Indeed, MBT means 'Main Battle Tank'. I looked it up right after I posted my previous statement. I guess it just IS bad...don't know why they would give it to us, especially if they're planning on getting MORE sales, instead of losing them. Well, maybe if we analyze it a different way it could be good: It keep 2 damage until salvage, and keeps around an average of 8 attack the whole way.