An army to use in a tourny on next wednesday:

Amazon Draconum - 106
War Hatchetkrugg*** - 40
Centaur Lieutenant*** - 37
Crystal Protector*** - 17

200 points exactly

What do you think ?

Ditch the Centaur and throw in a Taskmaster unique and a
* Goblin Volunteer

Why would he want to do that??

I think it is fine as is, 1 good attacker, a healer, a bodyguard, and another attacker, bodyguard, type figure.

Good Luck

yea, you've got a good move 2/move 2 going. protect that protector (god, that sounded funny), because you'll probably need her for the draconum.

Troll Leader,

ML/Ram may not be extremely powerful in the 200pt environment; however, it will give you the greatest amount of trouble. Dodge and LI are great, but they're not going to protect you for very long when your opponent is packing Ram.

If Ram is fairly prolific in your area, what are you plans for dealing with it? You don't really seem to have much, if anything, for that match up.

I as trying to come up with some way to augment the army you have to defend against Ram, and I would think using some of the KI chargers i.e. H. Cavalier* might be very effective in capturing anything that get's tossed that way. Also you may want to consider attempting to make room for Autumn(L1).

Your army might look something like this:

Amazon Draconum 108
H. Cavalier* 35
Autumn(L1) 26
Crystal Protector** 15
Mancatcher* 16

Then again, those changes don't provide the same amount of power you had had with the Centaur and War Hat'krugg; however, they do provide a better protection for AmDrac in the long run, and since you'll be using AmDrac as your main gun anyway it shouldn't harm the overall effectiveness.

Even if you do not like my suggestions, at least you have an idea of what may give you trouble.

Good luck and have fun,
Dwarf

PS: I would also like to note that adding a Taskmaster is definitely a bad idea. No offense Seeker, but just by your name I realize you're not on top of things quite yet. Don't worry though you'll get the hang of it soon.

PPS: Seeker, PM if you need any info on where you can learn to get the hang of things

PPPS: Good luck, again!

I see ML/Ram as causeing him little to no trouble. In 200 points the rammer will most likly be stuck near the beaf of his army. The amozon Drac could also blast the 1 or 2 ML figures into oblivion before it really causes any harm.

it's a 200pt game, which means two actions per player. if Troll Leader's opponent uses ML/Ram, then he's already used up his actions. i'm sure the Amazon Drac will be about 17" away, so it'll probably receive only 1 damage. at this point, the Centaur Lt. can charge to capture. with 11 attack the Lt. has a better chance to capture than the *Heavy Cav.

i have to respectfully disagree with Hawks58 on this: the ML figs would of course be hidding behind the fig they'd be levitating. and the MLed fig would be about 20" away from the AD. i doubt it would be easy for the Amazon Drac to blast these figs to oblivion so easily.

The Amazon Drac costs 108, not 106. Downgrade the Crystal Protector to ** and you'll be at 200.

I see what you are saying, but the AD could move over 6" and then shoot. Which in most cases would get where she could see by the terrain, But it would all really depend on the postion of teh AD and the ML'er before and after the Levatation.

hawk:hold on... if there is 20 inches between the AD and her target (part of the ML/ram engine) and the AD moves six and shoots 12, how can she it them. is this some new math? she can't move

six inches and shoot ever. she can move six inches exactly, or less, and shoot. that comes out to eighteen inches, not the 20 that's required for this situation.

Uhh, Yes if you would get off my F-ing arse and READ WHAT I SAID. Read that and quote it. It says, most of the time and depends on the situation, or did you skip that little bit? Also says "it depends on the postion of the AD and ML engine before and after the ML.

yes, you said depending on the position, the AD could hit them. it the situation brought up before was if the figs would usually be 20 inches away from the AD.

what you said was completely correct, it just didn't have anything to do with the section of billybob's post that you quoted. he was saying that if the AD is close enough to bound and shoot the ML figs, then it would also be close enough to fall sbuject to being ML/rammed.

is the same as a yes. I then realized what I said and also said,

my contribution to this discussion (which you so cleverly took from me from an entirely different discussion) was to point out that, while entirely correct in and of itself, was presented as a reply to the post before it, and did not resolve that situation. furthermore, to directly address that situation, if the amazon draconum is within bound range of the ml/ram formation (18 inches) she is more than likely (unless playing a very unusual ml/ram enigne) within the range of the engine and would probably have already been rammed. an intelligent player, seeing that the amazon draconum was already in range, would leave the rammer there, to either, make her fight, or have to break, in either case, she could no longer fire.