say Cophues does a unmagic enhanced F/L attack on 3 targets in the same group, every body in the group has tougness, do they take damage?

Thank You

well you could just have the damage go to one gifure instead

ugh if I wanted that I would have said that. Testuki thinks he is right and we need proof.

Smart###

I don't believe they are damaged. Since it only does one, and you target each warrior. So it is one click per warrior and then the other click to the warriors in base with it. Hope this helps.

Just my tow cents,
DEX

But they are damaged! The would not be damaged if the F/L clicks are applied seperately, but the AREN'T. Since they come from the same source (corpheus) all F/L clicks are applied at the same time and are considered to be the same attack.

Once again, i must point out that F/L damage DOES stack.

-Tsetsuki

Once again no it doesn't.

It seems WK toke this out of FAQ or it would be in Black and White in front of you.

No damage is taken. F/L does not stack. Each figure would take one click per attack, and toughness would counter the one click each time it is done. It is three one point attcks , just as though from three different attackers.
Donald

Gentlemen. You are absolutely and completely incorrect.

Please run a search on this forum for the last five times this question has been asked, and the results that were given. With references and footnotes.

You may also read the same answer to the same question on the Wizkid's web page if you feel an urge for something of more official a tone.

A link that might work is here . Actually, this link doesn't work. You'll have to go in by hand.

I'm not sure their forum software will allow a direct linkage, so look for Enhanced FLame Lightning Help! in the Mage Knight rules forum.

Tsetsuki1 is right, Flame/Lightning against multiple targets is still a single attack, A figure that is "splashed" from two different directions, or that is the primary target of one part of the attack and is splashed by another will take two clicks of damage, because that's how Flame/Lightning specifically works. However, everything that modifies the damage up or down only happens once: that includes critical hits, Toughness, Invulnerability and Magic Enhancement.

Renato

and i quote:

"Flame/Lightning & Multiple Attacks - A warrior with multiple ranged attacks may use Flame/Lightning against each target.

Flame/Lightning against multiple targets is still considered one attack. A figure that is "splashed" from two different directions, or that is the primary target of one part of the attack and is splashed by another will take two clicks of damage, because that's how Flame/Lightning specifically works. However, everything that modifies the damage up or down only happens once: that includes critical hits, Toughness, Invulnerability and Magic Enhancement.

Example: Player 1’s Hierophant is making a ranged combat attack, using Flame/Lightning, against Player 2’s figures. Player 2 has four Trolls standing ABCD. All the Trolls have Toughness.

The Hierophant has two ranged attack arrows. Player 1 declares Trolls B and C as the two targets of the attack. The attack die roll is high enough to hit all of the figures potentially affected.

Trolls A and D take 1 click Flame/Lightning splash - 1 click Toughness = 0 clicks of damage each.
Trolls B and C take 1 click Flame/Lightning + 1 click Flame/Lightning splash - 1 click Toughness, = 1 click of damage.

If the attack roll had been a 12, the damage delivered would be:
A and D: 1 click Flame/Lightning splash + 1 click critical hit - 1 click Toughness = 1 click of damage each.
B and C: 1 click Flame/Lightning + 1 click Flame/Lightning splash + 1 click critical hit - 1 click Toughness = 2 clicks of damage each."

Yes, the figures will be damaged as all the damage is being applied simultaneously from a single source.

Toughness will only reduce the TOTAL amount of damage each figure takes by one.

This has already been discussed ad nauseaum in many different threads.