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Has anyone had "consistant" success with any of these guys? Which would you say is the best? In the interest of saving points, Lowe is obviously superior. But how do they stack up as pitchers. I have seen AND heard horrid things about Wolf.
What are your thoughts?
And please, no Barry Zito comparisons (apples and oranges).
Well, Lowe is most definitely worse than the other two. With a Scorched FB in a common spot, any batter that has a good Bat Crosshair result can roll the Contact die and virtually be guaranteed of a decent at bat. Also, a Batter throwing the Power die, always has a chance for that straight up double. Although, after he clicks up, he's becomes considerably better. With Specialist and no Deep Flies, you only have to worry about walks really, but he needs some luck, a good defensive outfield or both to get past that first click. On his 4th click, where he can bounce between Flame Thrower and Specialist, he's a monster.
Wolf and Sheets are pretty similar. Lefty vs. Righty means nothing in this game, since neither one has Specialist. They both have the same intangibles on the same clicks. They both start with the same results on their dials. The difference is Wolf carries a Deep Fly on both the top and bottom for 1 click up before it turns to walks/possible walks for 3 clicks. Wolf also picks up a straight up K in a common slot after only one click up. Sheets carries a deep fly only on the bottom of his dial for 2 clicks up before it becomes a possible walk and a Scorched GB on the top of his dial. Plus, he doesn't get a straight up K in a common slot until 2 clicks up.
The summary: Wolf's common slots are better sooner, but the top and bottom of his dial have bad results longer than Sheets. Wolf clicks down better than Sheets. If you are running a rotation that starts one click down, pick Wolf. After a click up, it's easier to pick your poison with Sheets. I mean, if you want to risk Scorched GBs, roll Velocity. If you want to risk Deep Flies, roll Control. Wolf will walk more batters. Sheets is more likely to be able to use Flame Thrower.
I only have stats for 2 games for Wolf and 2 games for Sheets but:
Sheets 0-2 ERA 7.20 IP/G 7.5
Wolf 1-1 ERA 3.00 IP/G 7.5
Sheets had a complete game, which may account for his ERA, and Wolf had 20 Ks, which probably accounts for his ERA. What I am trying to say is that I don't think these stats are typical.
Sheets has been on my league team since April. He had 4 starts in April and went 2-1, he was 2-1 in three starts in May, and so far is 1-0 in June. His ERA is just under 2.
I've added Lowe, and he has one no decision for me in one start.
i think lowe is prolly the best on of these guys to use. sheets has given up too many homers and you already know about wolf. just make sure you have a good outfield and you might actually like makin rolls on those scorchers. more great plays never hurt anyone.
Originally posted by JibMob i think lowe is prolly the best on of these guys to use. sheets has given up too many homers and you already know about wolf. just make sure you have a good outfield and you might actually like makin rolls on those scorchers. more great plays never hurt anyone.
Not to totally disagree with you, since I think one can make a very good team using Lowe. I just keep remembering the one game where I pulled Lowe out of the game after pitching only 5.1 innings. 7 runs had scored on 6 errors and 2 Crosshair-Crosshair results. It is the only time I have ever seen a pitcher pulled before his Endurance.
If your Outfield has a 5 Def, it is just as likely to make an Error as a Great Play when you try to roll higher than 11.
I have been playing solitaire the last couple of days with the two league teams that I made. Its a 15 player, 1700 point league, so I'm allowed to have some talent on the team. :)
Anyways, the way I roll is that I choose the batter die that is most favorable to the batter and roll it with a d6. Then I take both pitching die, roll them in my hands and drop one randomly onto the table. Basically, this gives a favorable line to the batter, but IMHO, pitchers have an advantage already. :)
So, the reason I am telling you this is that I played Game 3 between both of my teams, Curt Schilling vs. Derek Lowe. Believe it or not, Lowe took the lead into the top of the 9th, 2-1. I pulled Lowe for Guardado, who promptly gave up a 2 run TC HR to Pujols to make the score 3-2. Wagner gave up two GB's & Flamethrower'd the last out to get the save.
So, the line for Lowe was:
8IP, 3H, 1R, 1ER, 3K's
So, in the competition of Lowe, Sheets & Wolf. Lowe is the best. Yes, he is susceptible on the first click, but get him to the first hot click and you will be fine.
Originally posted by Oatmeal I suppose as long as your defense is solid (5 or above) it doesn't matter how bad your pitcher is.
Well there really aren't any "bad" pitchers in the set per se. Lowe had the highest ERA in 2003 of the pitchers they made, which was like 3.97 I believe. However, we all know that the stats on the figs don't really represent what the player actually did in 2003. Anyways...thus far through my little experience with all three I'd take Lowe.