Hello all,

We are planning to try some co-op play. We do not know who or what fraction we will be pairing up, but each of us will be building an 600 points armies and together we are playing 1200 point armies for each side

I would consider myself an newbie to this game but I do like to playing Clan Jade Falcon, I don't have too many units but the units I have is able to help me build the following army.

So here is my setup.

'Black Rose' 253pts - Ms. Hazen 25+21pts - Elec Camo 22pts
Goshawk 130pts - Star Captain: CJF 25pts - Evade 22pts
Shamash Reconnaissance Vehicle 22pts
Shamash Reconnaissance Vehicle 22pts
Shamash Reconnaissance Vehicle 22pts
Raiden Battle Armor 16pts
Fraction Card Clan Jade Falcon 20pts

Total: 600 points.

My duties whoever I join will be get close and hit hard (DFA). The Shamashs are there to base the primary target so that I can use Black Rose and Goshawk to drop behind hopefully connecting the DFA and finish them off and move to another target. Hopefully this would work!!!

I choose e-camo because it will help avoid ballistic attack toward Black Rose.
I choose evade (which I am borrowing it from a friend) so I can run into better position toward the target
I choose the Shamash cause they are cheap and fast baser.
I choose the RaidenBA cause I don't have too many infantry and this dude fit the points :)
I choose the Fraction Card because I need to the ability for not getting dmg for DFA attack.

Hopefully the person I will teaming up with will have more range because I don't think I will be good for that role.

What do you all think? and thx for your input.

The gear needs much improvement. Electronic Camo will be of little use because Black Rose will be fighting up close where the gear will have absolutely no effect. Also, nobody would waste an order trying to indirect a 23-24 defense. The evade gear is also useless because it's single use. Furthermore, using a filler units hurts your army rather than help it. If you do need to use a filler, that indicates you have not used your points correctly and have wasted some.

I totally disagree with Gato Grandes opinion about Black Rose + ECM. ECM combined with blocking terrain gives Black Rose good protection, while closing in for a MDFA.
The Faction Pride card is a complete waist of points, because Black Rose and the Goshawk have built-in faction abilities, so you are paying for abilities that your mechs allready posses.

Thank you for the input. I will rework some of the army selection. As for the fraction card, I always thought after AoD, all the fraction abilities are replaced by fraction card so if I want it I need to use the card - at least that is what I thought.

Also gears wise, I found that if I don't have E.Camo, people tend to like to pick Black Rose from a distance and by the time I get close to them, I am already tooks some beating before I can even get close to do some real dmg.

I will try to build another 600 point army for this to see how things work out.

Thank you for the inputs :)

Ok, I see your point with the ECM. House Liao, Clan Jade Falcon, and Clan Sea Fox units that are from any set before Domination still have their built in faction abilities. The abilities were replaced with faction pride cards during domination.

... its a Faction pride, not fraction.

Sorry but every time one of the kids at my venue say fraction I want to choke them until they turn blue.

Domination and up are the sets that faction abilities are no longer available.

Me bad sorry :D Will not make the mistake again :)