There has been quite some discussing and arguing about this in a local shop that doesn't have an official judge.

I have say...4 resources, and one is genosha. After entering the recruit step, and adding 4 resource points to my pool. What happens if i KO genosha before using my resource points? So i go down to 3 resource cards, but i already added 4 to my pool. Does one of the points in the pool disappear with genosha being KO'ed?

You get 4 resource points as it is only checked at teh start of the recruit step.

Cool, i'd like more rulings/opinions though, because it's impossible to get it through this one guys head. I keep arguing with him but he won't listen.

since the resource points are being added at the beggining of the recrit or build phase or whatever you call it you'd be able to KO Genosha for god's sake where my starter rulesit says it in there!

404.1 As a player's recruit step starts, that player adds 1 resource point into his or her resource pool for each resource he or she controls, and any powers or modifiers that trigger at the start of the recruit step are added to the chain. Then the primary player gets priority.

Tell em' to stick that in their pipe and smoke it :)

whats freakin hilarious is that he showed me the EXACT rules, that EXACT one infact and was angry that i didn't see his point of view. He said that I should understand it from that rule, common sense. LMAO

are there any real judges, or someone who could get a judge to comment?

Your friend is an idiot.

Print this thread out and show it to him.

Better yet, don't play with idiots.

Hehe, i didn't say he was my friend. I WILL however print this topic for him, and also email UDE just to be sure, and for more proof.

Btw, he said that the only people who would think this way are random scrubs in a small tournament! I really hate this guy, he argues everything and is usually wrong :mad:

You don't need a "real judge" to comment on this very simple ruling; of course, you're free to wait for one to come if it really means that much to you.

It's quite clear: Resource points are added to your resource pool at the start of the Recruit Step. If you KO any of your resources after the resource points have been added, the resource points do not go away.

I'm Level 1 in rules certification in VS System, if that helps (though it really doesn't mean much, considering that many others have passed the easy Level 1 test as well).

EDIT - Haha, my bad...grimmer caught my mistake (I said Resource Step instead of Recruit Step), so I went ahead and corrected it. Just an example of what a lack of sleep does for me...

Thanks everyone, i've heard enough to tell him off now :)

Incorrect. Resource points are added to your resource pool at the start of your RECRUIT STEP. The Resource Step is the time when you can play a resource, so if it was added then, you wouldn't get resource points for any played during the current turn. Resource points only exist during the RECRUIT STEP.

I am a judge as well. Resource points are put it to your resource pool at the start of recruit then any triggered effects go off then primary player get priority.

Yeah, don't know why you would need a judge when its in black and white in the CRD. Oh well, hopefully your opponent is convinced now.

I'm a level 1 judge - I also made Top 4 in a PCQ using this same ruling with my TNB deck. They go to your pool at the beginning of the recruit step. Keep using Genosha on 5th turn to pull a Magneto, or Feral Rage and a one coster, or Rogue and Toad (well at least in my TNB...)