a simple ? besides the usual cs cards what other cards are great to include in this deck??? ntz,no mans, what else would u add???


btw dont post if ure going to flame on cs i know it's not original but it is a good deck.

also what reservist build is the best ??? examples??? tips all are welcome with their ideas,..,

For CS I like having NTZ, No Man, and Flame Trap.

I know alot of people have said NTZ doesnt belong but after seeing how effective it is in helping CS beat squadron I think it deffinately deserves a spot.

For Avengers I would probably trust Michael Jacob, I am sure he has more experience with the deck so his build plus the changes he suggested seem like a good place to start.

excelent thoughts i also agree with no mans,flame traps, what about total anarchy???

heres a basic deck what do u all suggest for the tech slts???


3 Boliver Trask, Creator of the Sentinel Program
2 Hounds of Ahab, Army
7 Sentinel Mark II, Army
7 Sentinel Mark V, Army
4 Nimrod, Mutant Hunter
4 Bastion, Leader of Operation: Zero Tolerance
4 Magneto, Master of Magnetism

4 Nasty Surprise
4 No Man Escapes the Manhunters
4 Reconstruction Program
4 Savage Beatdown
3 Finishing Move


4 Genosha


there are 6 slots lefth. gimme all ure ideas plz as i am unsure what do add,,

search and destroy-for the match against reservist
Unmasked-for kang and titans tamran

up the bolivers by 1. mebe ditch the finishing moves.

search and destroy is nice, ntz isn't required, everybody plays around it or knows how to.

Personally this is my list:
4 Boliver Trask
2 Hounds of Ahab
6 Sentinel Mark II
7 Sentinel Mark V
4 Nimrod
4 Bastion
4 Magneto

Locations
4 Genosha

Plot Twists
4 Finishing Move
4 Null Time Zone
4 Reconstruction Program
4 Savage Beatdown
3 Flametrap
3 Nasty Surprise
3 No Man Escapes the Manhunters

(Stolen from Ryan O'Connor's article)

Justice - Search and Destroy might be worth it but I have no idea what you would cut. Unmasked doesn't seem with it as Kang City hasnt been succesfull lately and has poor matchups against Avengers and TT.

Joel - NTZ is deffinately worth the spot, it helps in the mirrior, and without it you don't have much of a chance against Squadron No Hand.

OZZ465 - Total Anarchy could be worth it but it doesnt help in the Avenger's matchup, which is really bad, Search and Destroy is a better answer, but I dont know how much it swings the match.

-Alex

very interesting i run almost the same build cept im missing a boliver and 2 no mans .anyways the reservit match slitly worries me so u may be right about s&d .thx for the help as i need some last min advice for gencon.

I don't see how NTZ helps against Squadron No Hand. All their attack pumps can be played in response to NTZ. True, it does force them to play them early, but that doesn't make them completely wasted. The only card it would help against is Panacea Potion, and that would be a good one to name on your init.

I like the winning UK Avengers build, mostly because it is pure reservist with no leader chars or Avengers Assembled. The lack of a search card doesn't seem to hurt it when I've tested.

1. Sentiniels can't win any more, there are to many decks that can finish them before 6th turn let alone 7th! This deck needs a complete overhaul.

2. I like Karl Brown's version more, it requires less game expierience and appears to be more consistant!

heh CS beats Avengers. Dont believe the hype. I'd say 70%, or whatever 11 out of 15 is if you wanna go by my most recent testing.

However, your curve sucks. You need to go 4/1/7/8 or 4/2/7/8 if you can fit it. Plus no man is better than beatdown, and finihsing move isnt a 4 of. ntz is pretty good against avengers, not so hot against squadron, blah blah blah against other decks.

ur not Dorian are you

Why do you feel NTZ is not so hot against squadron?
From the small amount of testing (so very possible it is off), naming panacea potion and flametrapping seems to win you the game.

-Alex

Jacob's build of avengers is good but but i like browns better its straight foward and alot easier to use. Not that both decks aren't easy to use. But Browns is striaight beatdown. Its like the avengers version of curve sentinel

What does NTZ even accomplish against Avengers? And it has been very solid against Squad. Avengers seems to beat CS most of the time even when the Avengers player is not playing well.

Are you just trying to throw people off? those comments just seem odd.

nope, cs > av

ntz call heroes on your init they cant stun back without mansion and you keep board

ntz call call down on their init and nasty + bastion is free to stun back.

so ntz is good.

against squadron it was very rare that the turn i ntz'd potion they had a potion and that was a determining factor in the game. Its still the right move to call it though of course.