Recently I've been reading a lot about Vintage or Type One for Magic: the Gathering. For those not in the know, Vintage is essentially the Golden Age equivalent of Magic: the Gathering. Because of how FUBAR'd Magic's original designs there is a huge amount of resource acceleration available and an even larger number of low cost/high power threats, which results in things like you draining your opponent's life on the first turn completely, or drawing your entire deck, or you literally gaining control of all your opponent's turns for the rest of the game.

Now, as VS gets older and more and more cards are added, without a doubt the power of the average Golden Age deck is going to be signifigantly higher then say how it was two years back. This implies that Golden Age will start to speed up which naturally implies a lower level of interaction, though high power level does not neccessarily correlate to a faster game.

On that note, I'm just curious about what my fellow VS players think about Golden Age will be like say... 10 years from now? Obviously, most of us are in this game for the long run. Will Golden Age be completely degenerate? Will Golden Age be retired like Vintage is in Magic? I remember that your average game used to go to 7 ish and TNB could kill you if they drew the stone cold nuts. Nowadays, the average game length seems a lot slower then that and killing on turn 4 requires less work then with TNB. Already we are seeing decks that have faster and more reliable kill turns. Do you potentially see Golden Age hitting a critical mass of brokeness at some point in the new future? Or, do you think that there is no such concern, and that perhaps the Golden of 10 years will be as available and as balanced as it was near the beginning?

w/e it is, at least han would get to play, unless he gets banned again

in 10 years vs is either gonna still be turn 4 wins or they will print more cards as powerful as mystic and reign and stall/control will be dominant. i highly doubt curve will ever be good again.

vs I believe will always shift in top decks, like rush, curve and stall, o yea and control its sorta like a rotation.

I don't know, but hopefully I won't still be playing at that age :)


Also you suck Paul for not coming to our HL anymore

The top decks will be Doom, Titans, Revenge Squad and the new powerhouse team Alpha Flight. Hehehe.

But seriously? VS won't degenerate like Magic. Magic has 5-7 teams. Everything automatically works togethers. You can take 4 each of cards, 1 from each set, put them in a deck and they all work in cohesion without any sort of work.

VS team stamping of powerful effects prevents you from simply slapping Longshot, Radiation, Mark Moonrider, Surprise Attack and Human Torch 4 drop together to burn people out on 3 or 4 every game. Know what I mean?

Teams are working together more easily, but not THAT easily.

-Mike

I think the real question is, how many more freakin Net-decks will Patrick make in 10 years. He's dirtied his hands in Sentinels, Teen Titans, and now Glock. What next?! A secret project to make Revenge Squad/Intergang OTK?!
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wait.. titans wasnt obvious to every1? i couldof sworn titans was never "secret tech" :[

Uh, yeah, I think the skeleton of Titans was kind of... There for everyone. TRW and Jonesy just got the minimul credit cause they won the PC with it, right? Despite the other finalist having nearly the same deck too. Right?

-Mike

The two latter sentences contradict the first thing you say. What exactly have you been reading about Vintage? Probably not stuff written in the past 2 years. This (your) opinion of Vintage is the consensus opinion of people who don't know what Vintage is actually like, yet take a guess at in their heads. I only hope that one day GA will be like MtG Vintage, and for those of you that think this is a negative statement then I'd like to direct you to themanadrain.com and/or every single Vintage article written on starcity.

Honestly, you know those projects that governments have, where they try to bring dead, polluted rivers etc. back to life? That's Vintage, and they're doing a damn good job of it.

I'm going to edit this post later.

My main gripe about vintage is how relatively uninteractive it is. The only time you really play a game in Magic is when both people's draws are really bad or one person draws more Duress and Force of Will then the other guy. Even the control decks - which really aren't control decks at all - don't really want to control the board as much as they want to Drain a spell into a lethal Gifts.

I agree in principle. Its going to be rush vs control in the long run. A straight curve beats deck isn't going to cut it without some serious anti-weenie juice.

Although as the card pool gets larger and larger I would expect there will be a turn ~3-5 'I win' combo that isn't necessarily a rush deck - some type of mega-burn, pump your guy(s) to insane heights or alternate win condition.