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Master Mold cannot attack.
Army Sentinel characters you control get +2ATK.
Activate -> Put an army sentinel character card from your hand into your front or support row. Use this power only during your recruit step
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Exploiting the Flaw
Play Exploiting the Flaw only if you control an Inhumans attacker. Target exhausted, non-attacking Inhumans character you control becomes an attacker and cannot cause breakthrough this attack. Remove all other attackers from this attack.
OK, so Master Mold cannot attack, but can he become an attacker via the above interaction?
From the MHG FAQ
Exploiting the Flaw
Plot Twist, 3
Play Exploiting the Flaw only if you control an Inhumans attacker.
Target exhausted, non-attacking Inhumans character you control becomes an attacker and cannot cause breakthrough this attack. Remove all other attackers from this attack.
No check is made as to whether the target character could legally attack the defender. You can target a stunned character, even though a stunned character can't become an attacker; if you do, there will be no attackers this attack.
If the target becomes an attacker, it will trigger “whenever this character attacks” powers, but not “whenever this character defends” powers. A character that becomes an attacker during a team attack also becomes a team attacker. Removed attackers don't ready.
this would seem to say he could, but i might e-mail UDE about it, but i will wait till a couple of others chime in on it. cause honestly i am not certain.
No, you're right. He never "attacks", but he becomes an attacker. No abilities that trigger off of him "attacking" would trigger, but he would still be the attacker.
I dunno. I think that bit you quoted refers to legality in the sense that the character must have flight to legally attack a protected character, etc.
Characters that cannot attack cannot be attackers, right? Just as it says you can target a stunned character, but it cannot attack, so the effect fizzles, I think that the same would happen with Master Mold. He cannot attack, and when Exploiting the Flaw resolves, he would "become an attacker," which I think is the same as "attacks."
I think the "cannot attack" trumps anything that would make Master Mold an attacker.
Still, I think this is the grey type of rules area where an official ruling would be nice.
No, you're right. He never "attacks", but he becomes an attacker. No abilities that trigger off of him "attacking" would trigger, but he would still be the attacker.
Nice catch.
Wrong. Any abilities that trigger whenever the character targeted by Exploiting the Flaw "attacks" DO trigger when he is subbed in by the effect.
it's like playing one of those MMK plot twists that say "target attacker you control gets +4 ATK. Characters you control may not attack this turn."
...even though they "can't attack" it doesn't remove them from combat.
yeah but crime and punishment is different. thats saying characters that ARE attacking and other characters can not attack further. what we're asking would be the same as asking whether or not you could play exploiting the flaw after you let something like this resolve on a character who could already not attack.
i guess what i'm trying to say is:
there's no check for legality of the attack once the attack has already happend.
it doesn't matter that he can't attack because the game isn't checking weather he can or can't.
technically, exhausted characters cannot attack (according to the game rules)... so, this card wouldn't be used at all with ANYONE (since it requires an exhausted character)...
;-)
103.1 If card text contradicts rules outlined in the comprehensive rules, the card text supersedes the comprehensive rules. Card text only overrides rules when it directly states so.
not really, both cardtext contradict the rules, its which cardtext superseeds which. now i know Can't overrides Can, but Exploiting the Flaw ignores whether the attack would acctually be legal.
Characters that cannot attack cannot be attackers, right?
hrmmm.... i guess it depends if "cannot attack" means "cannot be declared as an attacker" or "cannot gain the attacker characteristic"
EDIT:
ok... i checked the "Summary of FAQ Terms" (which is, like, the New Testament of the VS Bible)
it says:
Quote : Originally Posted by Summary of FAQ Terms
5.1 Changing attackers
Some cards say to make a non-attacking character an attacker. If you do, the legality of the attack is not rechecked. However, a stunned character can’t become an attacker.
hrmmm.... i guess it depends if "cannot attack" means "cannot be declared as an attacker" or "cannot gain the attacker characteristic"
Exactly. When you declare an attack, it checks for legality, then the opponent can respond, etc. After the chain empties, it rechecks for legality. If it is legal, the attacker exhausts and is considered to become an attacker at that moment. Any effects that trigger when "this character ATTACKS" happen at this moment, so since we KNOW that Exploiting the Flaw allows those same effects to trigger, it would seem that the character that is targeted by Exploiting the Flaw ATTACKS at the moment he is switched in for the character that declared the attack.