Hey friends and foes. I've been thinking more and more about things I've seen in other games and I love them in concept and wonder how people feel over here these days.

Would you folks like to see generic VS cards, unaffiliated with any brand, that offer basic game options available to all universes and all 'Ages' of tournaments?

Basically, a card with no Universe symbol, but instead the VS logo, and a generically good effect. Think like flying kick, or acrobatic dodge, but openly available in tournament play to any universe at all.

Do you like that idea? If so, how would you like to get them? Would you be willing to pay for packs of them? Or would you be ok with them being randomly inserted in other universe packs? Or what about if they were special attendance prizes? What would you like to see done with something like this?

Not really, but I like answering "poll-type" questions.

By beating a guy dressed up as Dr. Doom who traveled the country with a "Raid style deck" that teams of 3 could play against that was really tough to beat and if they beat him they'd win the cards.

Depends how good they were.

Nope.

I still don't like the basic idea, but this is more feasible than the above. However, then it causes an availability issue.

Nope. I would, however, like another long list of questions to answer. :grin:

what would be the art on these cards though? that's a serious point for any non-competitive player. as a result, i think it's best to just continue including cards like this in the starters.

Besides, now that we don't have two seperate modern formats that only time that the universes are seperate is limited(sealed, draft) so there is no reason not to print as they do now, making them part of a specific set just not specific to any team. Like Flying kick.

The concept sounds awful lot like the power cards they have in POKEMON, which are basically generic cards and are given at release tournments to use with the cards from the packs.

I dont play POKEMON,my son does. From his point of view it only helps in sealed.

One of the great things about Modern Age is that you have a limited pool of cards to work with. You have to do something with few resources. Adding generic pumps, et al. would detract from the creative process in Modern.

Generic cards wouldn't really matter in Silver or Golden because the card pools are huge and the generic cards would have to be extremely good to unseat specific cards from established archetypes.

And if they were extremely good, they would completely disrupt Modern.

I guess I wouldn't care as long as the cards were worth it. I don't really see the point. Maybe some sort of promos. The logistics wouldn't be hard if UDE owns the name "Vs", they could put any card out with that on the back of it. There may be riders in the contracts with Marvel and DC and such, but since Hellboy will be out, who knows.

In order for it to work, it'd have to be generic (characters and such), so it may not be worth it.

Think like plot twists or locations or even equipments. Not so much characters though.

Plot twists that offer basic atk or def pumps, usable regardless of age, like the foundations of power for UFS or the jedi pack cards from star wars.

A search card that would allow any team or deck to search, but it would remove itself from the game or something.

An atk pump that might offer the attacker +3 atk and flight or a def pump that just blatantly offered +2 def or something.

An equipment that allowed it's user to choose at the start of the combat phase one of a few different options, a la framistat.

A location that allowed a player to put a card from their discard pile on top of their deck at some kind of cost.

I think the idea of a continuous block of playable cards-- 'generics' would be one step towards having a coreset for vs.

These cards may not even need to be remakes. Take cards that are necessary for most combat play. All those plot twists that are non-teamed and still playable.

This may make non-gold formats a bit too difficult to keep up with. Imagine cover fire in DCMA with Glock.

But the idea of a core set that gets revised may be good to get new players into the game with cards from out of print sets. THis is true only if they reprint stable cards.

I think the biggest thing that would make these cards your suggesting different from current cards in that they would be usable in all formats, presumably forever. The only way to this right now would be to have reprints, which I think is good, for generic cards like flying kick and acro dodge. I don't think printing the cards outside of sets and making special rules that make them playable in all formats is needed.

This idea, while interesting, really doesn't seem like it either solves any real problems or creates new opportunities worth the effort. Each set gets a new chance to either reprint old cards or make newer takes on those older effects. For GA and SA to a lesser extent, the introduction of new generic effects literally doesn't matter unless you're putting in something which is basically a strictly superior card, barring perhaps a possible critical mass for certain effects. I doubt that'd happen with most effects that matter.

For Modern Age, the problem with having always-on effects available is that if they're sufficiently good, these cards will supplant most of what a set gets normally, unless you're trying to strip them from the sets and come up with a weird way to deal with those problems. Of course, you can make them not be great, but then there's almost no reason to have them at all. Frankly, I find the notion of the shifting of sets providing different emphases by overall rising and falling values of ATK pumps, DEF pumps, and so on to be something that makes Modern Age distinct and different from the older formats which can suffer from a bit more of an inertia of older quality cards.

Ding, ding! There's the answer! Modern & Limited are already great.

It's a creative idea, but I would not be in favor of seeing it.