It's came up in a thread here and else where (and to my count it's a 6 agree-1 disagree vote from both forums) that if asked not to bridge shuffle a deck, while cutting it before game or after a search, then it is rude to do so.

Bridge shuffling, the act of bending the cards in an upward arch while pushing them together so to make them random. What one does with playing cards while playing poker.

The people who agree, that if asked you do not do it have stated reasons like-

Chance of Damage to the cards. Respect for the owner who paid for the cards. The many other ways to shuffle a deck that does not take a chance of causing harm

The one person who thinks you should do it anyway-

Because if you ask the person not to you are "an idiot" and a "cheater"

Any other thought?

In this game, I don't think it's really realistic to pile shuffle someone every single time they search. The reality is you'll often watch people shuffle their deck, then start to move cards because they are "clumped". This is attempting to manipulate the randomness of a deck. Especially if someone who does something like this made that request, I would deny them, claiming that UDE rules allow me to shuffle, and if he eggs on point out what he was doing was illegal.

But generally I like to shuffle everyone, mostly so I am never accusing any specific person of cheating. And since pile-shuffling isn't viable, I would Riffle shuffle his deck, and tell him if he has a problem with me doing such to call a judge.

if the deck is sleeved, you just mash half of the deck into the other and get the same effect as bridge shuffling. if you bridge shuffle an opponents sleeved deck, you are an ###hole.

if the deck is unsleeved, well, i will be bridge shuffling, or a judge will be randomizing the deck.

Do you count riffle shuffling the same as bridging the cards?

So far riffling the cards from what I see most people call it, is taking the cards into two piles, and pushing them together over and over.

I only ask, because I make it a point to ask people not to bend or bridge my cards into that weird arch, so not to damage or mark the the card.

Meeh, I've never seen anyone bridge shuffle decks - draft decks being the only exception.

Honestly, you make it seem like your cards are going to melt if you bridge shuffle. Bridge shuffling when executed properly isn't really that bad for your cards, not to mention you have protective sleeps.

Incidentally, what was wrong with keeping the shuffling drama in the other thread?

While you can certainly ask us not to riffle shuffle the deck, we can still do it, per the rules of the game. I always shuffle my opponents deck, but usually I just side shuffle it. (also known as weave shuffling or pushing)

And for reference:this is a riffle shuffle.

I moved it as asked. And it's not the cards melting right then and there, it what happens after bridging the cards over and over, or that one mistake that would screw something up. So to be safe, I ask no one do it.

As far as sleeves..I use them, I replace them often, but they do not seem to be as good as they used to. That and they do little when you bend them to protect what is in them.

My riffle shuffling involves pushing the cards together. I don't bridge shuffle ANY cards; it damages the cards pretty badly, and yeah that probably shouldn't be allowed.

I don't ask people not to riffle. It's bridging I ask not too. Think poker, when you see the dealer do that thing where he makes the deck look like two "M"s and shuffles them that way.

I am all for shuffling my deck if someone wants to. But something that bends my cards, or as I have seen before with slip of the hand send the cards flying all over, I just do not feel safe with it.

The deck I played at a PCQ on Saturday had almost a thousand dollars worth of cards in it...If I saw someone going to bridge shuffle it I would stop them. If they insisted I'd call a judge.

CC

Wait, so you're okay with what's in that picture, but you're not okay with the bridge afterwards?

To reiterate, This is Riffle Shuffling. The bridge is the method of pushing the cards back together after riffle shuffling, involving bending them the other way.

You want your opponents to Side Shuffle, or Weave Shuffle, which is pushing them together without any bends. If they're sleeved, this is acceptable. If not, then it is not acceptable, as it will tear cards apart way faster than any amount of riffle shuffling.

There, better?

A PCQ report about a deck worth a thousand dollars sounds like something awfully interesting to read about.

Wink wink
Nudge nudge
Poke poke
Prod prod

Heh...I never said it was a GOOD deck...

lol

CC

$17 per card, did they make army versions of Beatdown and Enemy and no one told me?

There was once a thread on making the "Richie Rich" deck, the most expensive semi-viable deck they could make... and it only came out to be $945.