Theres obviously a change of paradigm in the decision making process for the art on the these cards, lots of cover art too. and some remarkly bad choices. dont get me wrong, moon knight, I LOVE that comic art, good set, I like it.... just....


Desert Eagles .... Thats not a desert eagle.
Xorn ... I know this is a hard one... but surly if this is xorn he should still have his disguise on, this one is at most.... Magneto <> Xorn.
Gladiator why on earth would you choose this art... hes barely in it. Blink, sentinel 7 and serveral others suffer from really odd composition... as did dr light (outsiders)


What art seems strangely bad to you? or awesome. Im saying sauron, your not alowed to ;)

Hey come on I said Sauron the minute someone posted a scan on the realms.

Immovable Is great art. Much better than the similar one from MXM.
Xorns are should have been more like the art on Betrayal most Foul.
And a Personal favorite is the new Bullseye and Dardevil Fearless Survivor becuase they both deserve to be legends.

Any of the stuff by Matthew Smith just screams MS PAINT!

You can't really call them on Xorn, since Marvel themselves has muddied that whole thing up big-time. As far as I know, right now the Xorn from the New X-Men run was NOT Magneto, but a clone or something. Not a change I liked, but whatever.

I remember them writing an article about Xorn back when his first version came out, explaining that it was another... Xorn.

Oh yeah! that was it. They have also used a fair few 'Ultimate' pictures... which is a little bit silly.... as some of the characters as quite radicly different.... behind crystal you can see a teenage Mr fantastic and the invisable ninja girl..... WAIT also. Shouldnt that be Doctor Fantastic? as he has all those doctorates? If your enough of a prick to call yourself mr FANTASTIC! surely you'd stump up for doctorhood too....

i can draw a better picture then 8 drop Apoc out of Legends..........thats how bad it looks

Show us. Put your money where your mouth is.

Quoted For Truth.

A quick explanation of Xorn:

Xorn was hanging around with the X-Men when Grant Morrison was writing the magazine. All along, however, he had planned for Xorn to turn out to be Magneto, reveal himself, and get killed in the process. And things went according to plan.

The problem is that Morrison knew that Marvel would NEVER let him kill Magneto. Never. So he hatched an evil scheme. Morrison deliberately waited until the last moment to submit his storyline for the issue of Xorn's betrayal, knowing that the editors would want a re-write, but there wouldn't be time to write one. So, naturally, the editors were forced to say, "Ok, dickhead, you win, go ahead and print it. It's not like we have any choice."

The fallout: First and most importantly, someone else (in this case, Chris Claremont and Chuck Austen) had to fix his mess after Morrison left X-Men by coming up with the whole clone thing, and you know how well Marvel likes clone storylines. Second, usually overlooked, is the fact that there was another X-team (X-Force? Anyone?) that was using the Mansion at the time, and while it was destroyed by Magneto/Xorn in X-Men, the fact that Morrison hadn't told anybody what would happen in the issue meant the Mansion was just fine in this other magazine.

So yeah, blame it on the hippy who thought he could do whatever he wanted with other peoples' characters (and later complained about Marvel's opinion on his "plot twist" in interviews).

Hehe, I guess you're not a Morrison fan :) Personally I loved the story, and while I can understand their hesitancy, Marvel really should just leave a guy like Morrison alone when he gets going (assuming he TELLS them what he has planned, of course). You know that if he is going to off someone like Magneto (or Jean), it's not going to be done half-assed and that he'll do it right. Hell, they can (and did) just bring him back later like they always do anyway.

but listening to morrison talk about magneto and reading that arc pretty much proves he doesnt understand the modern magneto. he's been good longer than he's been bad. he's not a crazy old human hater who wants to kill just for the fun of it. reading that made me feel gross like when gwen stacy had kids with norman osborne... that was also bad.

He did that for a reason, just like the entirety of his run. I don't want to get into it all here, but basically the entire story was about how things never really change in comics, and stories happen in cycles. Sure Magneto was "good," but how many times has he reverted to evil? Things always end up back where they started in the comic business, and Magneto turning evil again was just a way of showing that.

Comics go in cycles because the writers write them that way. Morrison's point was self-fulfilling. "Hey, I made Magneto evil again, thus proving that Magneto always turns evil again!"

That being said, yes, he's right, everything happens over and over again in comics (Who actually think Captain America is dead for good? NO ONE).

Grant Morrison is Alan Moore without the same level of talent. Sure, he's a good writer, but to me that doesn't make up for being such a crazy jerk.

Back on topic...
First, let's point out that art is subjective; what appeals to me may not appeal to you. Nothing wrong with that.
Second, I haven't seen the entire set yet, just what I got in my box and a few odd boosters.
Third, I'm gonna ignore the whole "it's not new art" debate - there's some good art out there, so provided it's treated correctly, I'm fine with it. "Treated correctly" would include removing cover text...

Stuff I like:
Dagger: Lightbringer - A damn fine piece, and Dagger doesn't have a rack bigger than her head. She's meant to be a teenage runaway, after all - nice to see it reflected in the art.
Chain of Vengeance - Tha's just neat.
Human Torch: Nova Blast - Skottie Young's style may not appeal to all, but I think it's nifty.
Medusa: Red - Sean Galloway makes me chuckle.
Spider-Man: Power and Responsibility - Jonboy. Need I say more?

Stuff I don't like:
Echo: Masterless Samurai - cover text in the background
Punisher: Guns Blazing - Meh. Just don't like the solid red background
Franklin Richards: Child of the Cosmos - Just don't like this piece.
Hulk: The Fantastic Hulk - Urgh. Looks like he just farted.
Luke Cage: Paid in Full - Possibly the only Chris Brunner piece I can categorically say I don't like. I'm still a fan of his though.
Firewall - I recognise that the Torch is a sod to "get right" on the best of days, but this one just really doesn't click for me.
Shi'ar Soldier: Army - Why does this show the imperial guard instead of, say, Shi'ar soldiers?
Sibling Support - Maybe I'm just not a big fan of Kelsey Shannon... Sorry, Kelsey...

And just an interesting one:
Commanding Nature - am I mistaken, or have they actually picked versions of Storm, Rogue and Archangel from completely different runs and mixed 'em in? I could swear that's 90's Rogue, Morrison Archangel, and Ultimate Storm...