well, you may see this and think i am hating on vs but in all honesty my biggest problem with vs is the "pro player" i am not talking about someone who likes to play compettively and has a few points saved up but those guys out there that have 20-30 pro points or better that were only playing the game for money.

you see i live in calif. and there is no casual play here it is a strictly money/big prize or no one shows, getting players to come is like pulling teeth, they continually blame ude but they had no choice in doing what they have been doing .


hard choices have to be made , vs. is my favorite game i have ever played but i am unable to play dur to lack of players in my area..............

well where i play, we only play casual. and i live in cali. we play teams, insanity decks with out the insanity rule. should try it sometime.

I have a problem with this post. THERE IS NO MORE MONEY IN VS. So i'm not sure what "Pro's" your referring to. If there is money tournaments plz let those of us at EdgeWorld know cause we will come :)

check this out. http://www.vsrealms.com/forum/showth...d=1#post821657

Where in California do you live - let me know so I can hustle!

Let me know too... I loves me some money :)

maybe you misunderstood me i am not saying there is money in vs i am saying now that there is no money in vs no one is playing in my area , the last elite series we had there were 4 ppl there! four!!!!

I don't know of anyone in my area that played, before or after the money.

But if people wanted to play cards for money, they should play poker.

I empathise with you.

As a TCG fan who lived in rural areas of Australia for many years, I could never find anyone to play with. Invariably I taught a friend how to play and played fairly unchallenging and repetitive games.

Moving to a decent sized city five years ago was great, which was only improved upon by the release of Vs System.

Mine is still a relatively small city (300,000 people), but me and a few other Vs enthusiasts built a modest, but dedicated group of casually-focused Vs players.

A few of us used to travel to $10Ks, but generally speaking the only OP we had was a Sneak Preview for every set and one PCQ a year. But that was plenty and our community continued to grow and thrive. Sure, things like sets based on less popular properties and such cooled enthusiasm a little at times, but even today we have a dozen or so regular locals.

The thing was, we were never a competitively focused community. The only painful part of the OP changes for us was the loss of Sneak Previews/Release Celebrations in Australia. Hobby League kits dried up and the few of us who travelled missed the $10Ks, but in the end we only lost a few players due to this.

This allowed us to fill the gap left by the OP withdrawl with our own events, including a Player of the Year series. We make up our own rules now and design our events to suit our tastes. Sure we have the occasional event where we only have four or so players, but that's not too bad when you consider that largely, it's only pride on the line.

If possible, I suggest you try to find four to six similarly-minded people and try to build a community from scratch. If your core guys consistently turn up to events and set a casual, fun-oriented tone for your play, then you will eventually attract a few more players and events like City Champs will be healthier and better patronised for it.

Forget what has gone before and try starting something new and fresh.

I hope this isn't too idealistic for anyone ... I'm just trying to relate how my local community has continued to chug along.

the major problem in Vs is when you get the TO/Players UDE newsletter and the english gays don't even advertise Vs in the flipping letter!.

UDE UK gets a +1 for arranging Elite Series but a -2 for not even promoting them.

Typical UDE 1 step forward then 2 back.