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I'm really excited for Pain Painter to be released. I haven't run Zombies in a long time but being able to play Revived King Ha Des, Doomkaiser Dragon, and Archfiend Zombie-Skull is really tempting. For those that haven't seen Pain Painter:
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Pain Painter
Dark/Level 2/Zombie/Tuner
Attack 400/Defense 200
While this card is face-up on the field, its name is treated as “Plaguespreader Zombie”. Once per turn: You can target up to 2 face-up Zombie-Type monsters you control, except this card; they become Level 2 until the End Phase. They cannot be used as Synchro Material Monsters except for the Synchro Summon of a Zombie-Type monster.
I think some of the deck is going to be obvious, after that I'm not sure what direction I want to go:
Spells
3 Mystical Space Typhoon
2 Pot of Duality
2 Book of Life
1 Reinforcement of the Army
1 Allure of Darkness
1 Dark Hole
1 Monster Reborn
1 Heavy Storm
1 Book of Moon
1 Foolish Burial
Traps
2 Call of the Haunted
2 Solemn Warning
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Mirror Force
Extra Deck
1 Ally of Justice Catastor
1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Orient Dragon
1 Revived King Ha Des
1 Doomkaiser Dragon
1 Archfiend Zombie Skull
1 Black Rose Dragon
1 Stardust Dragon
1 Scrap Dragon
1 Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Ally of Justice Decisive Armor
1 Steelswarm Roach
2 Number 39 Utopia
I'm on the fence if Pyramid Turtle is necessary here. I like being able to bring out Spirit Reaper or one of the Tuners but other than that I don't know. I could run Gachi Gachi Gantetsu in the extra deck and Blue-Blooded Oni, but that seems a little situational.
I hadn't thought about that either but I could see an Il Blud/Hidden Armory/Supervise type of thing work here. Hidden Armory dumping cards to the Graveyard where most Zombies want to be then using Blud/Zombie Master/Mezuki/Book of Life to grab them back.
From there I could run Neos Aluis or Crusader of Endy if I wanted a few more Geminis. Maybe toss in Gemini Spark for good measures. So many ideas, I need to focus.
Anyone else have any ideas for this new Zombie deck? I forgot about Pain Painter until I checked the spoiler again today. I think this deck will be a load of fun. Not sure if it's worth running Ryko/Debris Dragon here though.
- Armageddon knight, loads for book of life, mezuki, plague en zombie master. Gets under BTH if needed.
- Zephyros, great pitch for Armageddon Knight, but also for zombie master, allure, you name it
- Between goblin, mezuki, arma, zombie master and zephyros you'll want to run utopia or zenmeister or roach (have you seen the prices on this ???). Summoner monk makes another great addition. Especially when you bring out arma knight, dump mezuki or plague then Xyz summon, or dump zephyros, bounce arma for zephy, then xyz summon for the +1. But also when you bring out goblin since he now gets his effect after being xyz-materialized.
Blue-blooded oni will work once we have some rank 4 Xyz we can use on our own turn (think book or mezuki to bring back zombie master, dump goblin to resurrect it, go into LV4, use goblin as xyz material, get a search for oni, summon oni and use the zombie master xyz material to get oni's effect). Until then i fear its too slow as well.
keep me posted on what you find, will be looking to make this deck come september myself. Hope 2 pain painters will be enough.
I was actually thinking about Summoner Monk. This is what I'm thinking for an initial deck list. Not sure how well Dark Armed Dragon will run here, but it's worth trying out.
Spells
2 Mystical Space Typhoon
2 Pot of Duality
2 Book of Life
1 Reinforcement of the Army
1 Allure of Darkness
1 Mind Control
1 Dark Hole
1 Monster Reborn
1 Giant Trunade
1 Book of Moon
1 Enemy Controller
Traps
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
2 Solemn Warning
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Seven Tools of the Bandit
1 Compulsory Evacuation Device
1 Mirror Force
Monster line-up looks decent enough. Not sure about the rest. POD might hinder your explosiveness, so depends on whether or not its needed. Don't see BTH making it either, and E-con could be a dead sometimes too. What I don't see here that you will need is Foolish Burial.
Foolish Burial is probably a good idea. That will be easy enough to fit into the deck.
With Pot of Duality I look at it like this, it's great to see early turns so I can dig for my key cards when I'm setting up my field or Graveyard. In later turns in can easily be discarded with Summoner Monk to start making those explosive plays that you referenced. It seems low risk/high reward to me right now.
As for Bottomless Trap Hole, I'm not sure what I'd play in it's place. It feels necessary to me to help combat Librarian unless I'm going to run Royal Oppression in this deck. That's entirely possible as well.
Foolish Burial is probably a good idea. That will be easy enough to fit into the deck.
With Pot of Duality I look at it like this, it's great to see early turns so I can dig for my key cards when I'm setting up my field or Graveyard. In later turns in can easily be discarded with Summoner Monk to start making those explosive plays that you referenced. It seems low risk/high reward to me right now.
As for Bottomless Trap Hole, I'm not sure what I'd play in it's place. It feels necessary to me to help combat Librarian unless I'm going to run Royal Oppression in this deck. That's entirely possible as well.
If I ever get a second one now, I may opt to run 2 tour guides and a sangan over the troopers you have. Little more precise than milling, and between those and arma knights, foolish etc, you should be loading the grave the way you want soon enough. If Librarian is your issue (he'll be going to one in september likely and decks abusing him will be hit hard, imagine we'll have seen the last of formula synchron for instance) try something a little more versatile like Fiendish chain.
If I ever get a second one now, I may opt to run 2 tour guides and a sangan over the troopers you have. Little more precise than milling, and between those and arma knights, foolish etc, you should be loading the grave the way you want soon enough.
I'd probably run Tour Guide if I had any. Right now I'm not willing the pay the price that they are demanding. I do agree with what you are suggesting though.
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If Librarian is your issue (he'll be going to one in september likely and decks abusing him will be hit hard, imagine we'll have seen the last of formula synchron for instance) try something a little more versatile like Fiendish chain.
What do you think you would run over Bottomless? Return? Dimensional Prison? Oppression? More Spells like Burial or something else?
I'd probably run Tour Guide if I had any. Right now I'm not willing the pay the price that they are demanding. I do agree with what you are suggesting though.
I know, and even at that price I can't seem to find any (I don't make orders over 50 on ebay, they rip you off on shipping). Been looking for two months, finally found one by accident from a guy who had quit, and got it for 40. But need a second (preferably a third, as tour guide is going to be the next POD, splashable in almost anything)
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What do you think you would run over Bottomless? Return? Dimensional Prison? Oppression? More Spells like Burial or something else?
Well, I actually think Fiendish chain would be pretty good here. It solves your librarian problem, offers the type of effect stoppage you need these days and protects you from battle damage. D-prison is an alternative, but always worried about running static stuff in a fast deck. Not sure burial would even still work with only plague, allure and mezuki to feed it really
Well I kinda doubt you have these already, but if you have Steelswarm Roach, Zombie Master is a must play 3 card. Especially with the Xyz ruling change of monsters like Goblin Zombie getting there effect. I know that I will be playing my Zombies with triple Zombie Master due to Roach.
So basically the idea becomes use Zombie Master to get Goblin Zombie and Xyz Summon Steelswarm. The first time your opponent tries to special summon a level 5+ monster, ditch Goblin Zombie and seach for it, probably for another Zombie Master. Then just repeat the process when you need to.