Nobody cares about the Legion of Superheroes.
I only care because of that cartoon that came out 2 decades ago.
So when they put out Legacy cards for the new figures I was all over it. I even offered to buy them on the trading forum here. No takers (see, no one cares). So I just bought 'em off ebay instead.

Although there is one I didn't get...

I had the super rare of the original back in day but traded it off given how it's supposed to promote into a Prime that I had no intention of getting.
I was considering shelling out the 30 or so I saw the original going for on the aftermarket when this set released... but about a month later it went up to SEVENTY+ dollars? WHAT? Can someone explain this to me? I know nobody cares about the Legion, so that can't be it... is there a meta thing to it I can't tell? Oh well, just add that to my list of figures I'll never play.

But here I'm going to tell you about the figures I DID play. Since the keyword still doesn't have many modern options, I opted to play future instead. I've won more than not playing them with Ace, Per Degaton, and the new Supergirl. Take that as you will.


Heh. Cosmic Boy finally gets the Cosmic keyword...
This guy's card I actually won at the venue. Yay! Sadly, it's as I thought. He's better than PULP figures at 50 points, but nothing special. That damage power may look really cool on paper, but then you realize perplex can do about the same amount of work for a FREE. I mainly used him to have Lightning Lad TK'd when LL missed his Sidestep rolls. It is CRIMINAL this guy doesn't have Leadership. I feel it's an oversight on the designers part. Speaking of that...


Double Sidestep.
Really Wizkids? And considering John Stewart never got justice I'm not holding my breath. I feel they meant to give this dial Hypersonic Speed on those clicks, as it wouldn't be broken by any means.
Sadly he's a bit too frail and you really have to plan around that Empower to make him work. Probably better at 40 points, and haven't gotten to use him at 75 yet.


Yeah, this guy's a star player. He's my favorite Legionaire (always been a sucker for Lightning powers) and we have a dial with crazy range and damage output. I just realized last game he gets an energy token for hitting his Energy Explosion too, so you will probably never run out if you keep hitting. Saturn Girl is probably gonna take hits for him the most. Per Degaton's Enhancement is, of course, another great boost.
I find it funny how Lightning Lad always releases alongside a Young Superman in heroclix. And 2 out of three of those times, Young Super man can always beat him without breaking a sweat. (Which is lore accurate) This time, though, Lightning Lad stomps and can off this set's Superboy in one turn (even the 75 point dial). So LL is a bit TOO good, but the figure is too fun for me to care.


Keep some elevated nearby just in case and she can Mastermind to nearly everybody. But it's having Rare Supergirl heal her up that makes a 2 hit sponge turn into a 3 hit sponge. The mind control special is a downgrade from the original, but no complaints really.


Heh. Matter Eater Lad has come a long way from his bystander days. He's doing a LOT of eating. I rarely play equipment, so having this figure around just to take my opponent's is the greatest thing. Free points. It's a ridiculous this just how much this guy can conceivably eat in one turn with all those free actions, and Poison really doesn't make sense for him. What's he doing, eating up to 8 people at once, and why should damage reducers really slow him down if everything else can just be chomped away? Oh well, I'm just rambling now. The Super Senses really makes him the right amount of nuisance, but he's probably gonna die anyway.

As for their common shared trait, does anyone else feel that it's a testing of the waters to potentially replace the Legion TA as a whole? They really don't need to be wildcards anymore thematically. I dunno, I have suspicions. I forgot to make the roll the first few times, but mostly remembered it after that. Just wear a Legion ring to help you remember.
Anyway, no one cares, so I probably just wasted all this time. Still; it's fun to talk about the new pieces time to time.

Love your review! I missed your trade thread, but likely I got my hands on spares after you went to eBay.

I've played the full lineup of legacy legionnaires once at a tournament, and played White Witch on a mystical team. She's going for $70 now? Whyyyyyy...

I'll share more thoughts in a day or so, but wanted to post tonight so you'll see someone cares.

My name is not Nobody!

White Witch is a bit of a head-scratcher. The Legacy card isn't at all bad, but it doesn't strike me like it is a major game-changer. She certainly brings utility at 50 points that the original did not at 87 points! Maybe the cost reflects that the piece was relatively unloved for so long? It sort of reminds me of the Legacy Ace from JLU.

I'm not sure I played the (original) White Witch ever... certainly no more than once. The point cost of the Legionnaires made building certain teams effectively impossible (see my signature links!)... and since Mysa/Blok was a thing, those two didn't leave much room for anyone else on a 300 point team. I was super excited to have pulled the SR prime, and for quite some time it was probably in the bottom five SR primes as far as secondary market value. The Legacy card isn't likely to change that!

I may have written this before: I feel that unless WK decides to embrace the Silver/Bronze Age LSH and give us a rather complete roster of 50-point characters... and WB/DC lets it go through... I don't think we are very likely to get much beyond these Legacy cards and the Super-Pets. It is such a rich franchise, but it is clear that DC doesn't have any idea what to do with it(*1). I find it embarrassing that Gen V did one of the best adaptations/spins of LSH.

I had high hopes that Bendis would have drawn enough attention to them, and that he'd do something similar with them like he did with the "Team House of May Parker" that he did in those early-to-mid issues of Ultimate Spider-Man... but it is kinda clear when his heart isn't in something, and I almost wish that DC had let Ryan Sook write and draw the book.

(*1) IMO, the greatest advantage the LSH has had as a comic is that it literally has no need to tie into whatever the "current" DC Continuity is. Of course, there has never been a time in its publishing history when the team hasn't had some time to 'current' continuity (modulo how folks want to think about the original "Adventures of Superman when he was a boy." The best LSH runs IMO have been those when the stories have been reasonably separated from the rest of the current on-the-racks DC books.

Huge fan of the Legion from way back. SLOSH is one of my favorite sets to this day because of the depth it got into Legion characters hero and villain.

I feel that making the return of the Legion in MoT as 1 or 2 pieces and a handful of legacy cards feels wrong. An actual return to the game would be new pieces and dials for a dozen heroes, a half dozen villains, and 2 legacy cards.

The price on this figure is weird but it's definitely not worth $70... especially since 1 just sold yesterday for $1.25

My apologies...

The original had an Outsiders like ability, I believe. It's really the mystics and prob that makes the new one shine.
Fascinating. I saw a few comics here and there and figured the title was prone to a lot of reboots. Once a comic shop told me that it was a low selling title.

I guess something is better than nothing...
Again, it kinda seems like they only released a few now, because they wanted to get a gidst of how well that trait does. Maybe it will become the standard Legion TA and they'll give Team player to most of them?
Looking up the Legion of Villains keyword it seems like that group has never been done real justice.

I... have to believe that's some sort of error.

She sold for $1.25 at auction. The most recent (and cheapest available) BINs are around $35. The $70 sales were probably around the time she was first announced as a Legacy figure, before we saw the dial (or right as).

It is, and it is now.

Back in the early to mid 80s, pre-Crisis, the Legion and Teen Titans were DC's two best selling books. The problems and the reboots started with the Superman reboot post-Crisis. The Legion is/was intricately tied to Superboy-- they're teens in the future inspired to become heroes because of the adventures of Superman when he was a boy. Removing Superboy gutted the Legion, and they've been trying to make the book work ever since.

It has been quite good at times, but the sales have never been what they were, and new reboots were just around the corner because of it. Funnily enough, the one reboot it did escape was Flashpoint, because the title had just had another reboot barely a year prior, so it (along with Green Lantern and Morrison's Batman) was one of the few DC books to escape that one.

1958-1989-- original Legion
Originally one-offs in a Superboy story, they go from that to back-up to stories to their own title. Jim Shooter and Paul Levitz are the star writers here. Pre-X-Men revival Dave Cockrum works on the title and a number of X-Men (Storm, Nightcrawler) were originally intended for the Legion. Mike Grell, Pat Broderick, Greg Larque and Keith Giffen are among the other artists with memorable stints. The impact of the Superman reboot starts being felt here.

1989-1994-- Five Years Later
-Skipping ahead five years from the previous volume, this is a darker take and really, really good. Until the original writers (Giffen and the Bierbaums) leave. #4 has Mon-El punch the Time Trapper so hard time is rewritten, in a soft attempt to deal with the issues caused by the Superman reboot. Look, it's awesome.

1994-2004-- Reboot Legion
-The book starts over completely after Zero Hour. It's mostly written by Mark Waid, Tom Peyer, and Roger Stern until the last few years which are by Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning. The period before that is sometimes called the "Archie Legion" because, well, the book is pretty happy and there's a lot of romance.

2004-2008-- Threeboot
-Mark Waid and Barry Kitson try again. Jim Shooter and Francis Manapul finish the book off. Shame this version had its legs cut off by...

2007-2013-- Return of the "original" Legion/Retroboot Legion
-Hey, notice the overlap with the Threeboot? Geoff Johns and Brad Meltzer pretend Five Years Later didn't happen and bring back the original prior to that. They eventually get an ongoing by Paul Levitz.

2019-2022-- Bendis Legion
-Bendis does yet another full reboot.

I think the best, and easiest version of the Legion to try is the "Archie Legion". It doesn't have the same appeal to me as the Original -> 5YL -> Threeboot versions, but the Archie Legion ends up re-telling a lot of Jim Shooter's best stories, and it spins the characters in different ways that aren't mean-spirited.

I rather liked the v3 "Pocket Universe" resolution to the then-current Superman editorial desk's mandate to "do something because you can't even not mention Superman or Supergirl any longer now that we are post-Crisis." Of all people, nice guy Jerry Ordway was (in my recollection) defending that rather aggressive stance many years later... after lord-only-knows-how-many reboots/deaths/imaginary stories in both the Superman (and Supergirl, and Superboy, and Lex Luthor and...) and LSH canon.

I did like that Mon-El got to go out like a champ, basically making the hardest of hard calls. The weirdest part about that was IMO that it happened in issue #4... and then the new timeline only lasted a single issue (#5) before we got another new timeline!

I'm geeky enough to do just that.

But seriously, that trait plus the other complications from gameplay nowadays certainly shows there's virtue of typing out trigger notes for each team. What you need to do beginning of game, what to do beginning of turn, etc.

I remembered the roll most of the time, but never getting the 6 made it kinda paltry.

I'm fine if they leave the TA as is. They must have explored some options for the TA, but they went with this trait instead. If there's no grand plan to make a bunch more Legionnaires, no reason to change the TA.



For the times I've played her, it feels like she brings so much to the table, but somehow it's still difficult to bring it all together. Safeguard: Mystics sounds great, but then I learned that's not a protection from unavoidable Mystics damage... the best kind to be protected from. So she needs Lightning Lad w/ Trick Arrows to bust up a Soulsword or Star Sapphire ring to make sure the team can sluff off the Mystics damage.

"Greeting from Sorcerer's World" looks good on paper, too, but it feels like most opening salvos start out as hits. You get to lock an attack latter-turn, but feels a bit late for that.

Wow. That's something that it sold that well. I'm guessing that's the original is where most of the cues from the show come from. I remember seeing a profile book with Color Kid. I wonder if he'll ever show up in clix, heheh.
The show did a pretty clever job with calling the Legion of Super Villains the Lightspeed Vanguard and given them the same acronym. Looking up the team in the units it seems like the show completely re hauled the cast. I guess Saturn Queen is in there but she looks completely different in the show.
That's baffling to think Storm almost made it to the Legion. And Nightcrawler.
My sister had the 2000's run of Teen Titans with Geoff Johns at the helm. I still don't really know the public reception to that era now that I think about it. I guess they were going all in making Jericho a bad guy, but I digress. The crossover with the Legion is about the only time I saw something this century with the Legion. And now whenever I see a Superboy in clix with the Superman outfit I wonder if it's Conner Kent.
Bendis, huh? I seem to recall him being associated with Beast Machines in some way... As a transformers fan that's not really a good thing. Though I don't really hate Marv Wolfram or anything.


I did roll a 6 once, which bolstered Superboy's range enough for an attack.
Nice to know that someone's played WW, then.
Just have Matter Eater Lad take away that equipment heh. Thankfully my venue isn't that equipment heavy to worry about that stuff every time.
I'll have to look into it, but I thought SAFEGUARD kept the effect from happening to you in the first place, so I thought the unavoidable wouldn't even get the change to trigger. I'll read it again. But yeah. Matter Eater is pretty hard to keep from taking away your stuff.

When we got LOSV remakes, it def. made me want LOSH remakes. I care. Just like Alpha Flight, these are pre-black card era figs so they can def. use remakes.

Right now, that is my benchmark. If a figure at least has a black carded version, they are decent enough for me.

What's really sad is any character that doesn't even have an oreo base version. That may be worse than being unclixed. It's like, here let me handicap your team and possibly be hard to turn the dial while I'm at it.

The original team era 1958-1989 is my favorite of the legion and that is when I read their stories monthly. It was also very easier to afford them back then.

Now the SLOSH was a great set and while I would like to see a new Legion set, especially with Light Lass and Ferro Lad who has been never clixed, Element Lad in his Green & Black outfit and his girlfriend Shvaughn Erin from the Science Police/LSH Liaison. These are my main wants if and when the Legion ever get updated in this game. But I doubt it in the near future. I don't see them popping up in a new set anytime soon.

I see a major Justice League Unlimited and JSA set in the future with both teams starting new series in December I believe.

Back to SLOSH. The best part of the set that I end up getting quickly with one of my sons help, was the chases. For the longest time I could not remember where they came from until recently. I ordered and just finished reading the Great Darkness Saga where the Legion fought Darkseid and those chases. I owned the original comics of that story but found out over the summer that three parts of it has gotten ruined. It was cheaper to but the TGN them replace the comics. I been getting ready to do a home game series where the Legion takes on Darkseid, the Chases, and the black suit Daximites, and make the battles where only certain members battle a chase just like the chapters in the story.

Mystics damage hasn’t been unavoidable for awhile. It’s currently penetrating damage.