I love how this thread turned into what was specifically asked for it NOT to become.

Guys, the H-dial is gone. Forever. Get over it. It's gone because it wasn't newb, n00b, newbie or noob friendly. This was basically said on the first page. Don't read that first page though, you may cause a stress fracture. . .

Don't really care for what I've seen so far.

- Definitely don't want to the diameter of the base to be larger, and don't want the base to be taller (the prototype seems to make it look like the height difference would be negligible, but those MK bases - yikes!)

- As far as H vs. Cup I have very, very few problems with either one.

Which leads me to

- In short, I don't want to see a lot of time, money, and effort going into something that will bring very little in return.

You mean... unlike flight stands?

Flyers dont count. Flyers should be flying.

I will tentatively say that I like the prototype base shown here better than the "cup" base, but not as much as the "H." Being able to turn the base without grasping the figure itself is always a good thing, because there are some sculpts that are just fragile and easy to break. Those are also often some of the coolest and most dynamic sculpts, so it makes breaking them even more of a shame. Depending upon how easy this new base type is to grip and click, it could potentially be better than the previous ones. Aesthetically, I think it looks fine, potentially better than the current style bases. I like the smooth top better than the look of the 'cup' that the current bases sit in.

What did I mention that had anything to do with what I do outside of the game?

And why out of the 4 things I mentioned about myself is "decent looking" the thing that bugged you?

Them there rings?

Lame-sauce!

These new dial designs kick arse cakes!

Big gay hugs!

I like this idea, if WK keeps the "cup" style bases. If I have to grab near the sculpt to turn the dial, I like having the "cresent".

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Any chance WK would produce some "pucks" of this prototype base to see at conventions? Like they did way back with the con-exclusive Ant-Man dial?

Isn't everyone?


And KillerSavage is right.

Ummm...

Actually, it does. I've done demonstration games for kids for 3 years now, and the "H" style bases were always a turn-off for them. They are not intuitive to outside players who are only looking at the pieces while you are teaching how to play the game to another group. Similarly, the "H" style does not provide a logical or easy way to turn them outside of the ring or knowing where and how to grip the piece properly (where to place the thumb and forefinger to get the "H" to turn). Parents were often just as confused when looking at the dials and not understanding how it was a 'click' at a glance. Many simply put the pieces back down and walked away. I even had a product engineer and designer comment, after I had explained and demonstrated how an 'H' dial worked, "You do realize that's counter-intuitive, right? Those ones (pointing to the AE bases) make sense, this thing? It's a piece of ****."

After my first demonstration day, I always put the AE style bases out so that the kids could turn the dials when they wandered by and get the idea of the 'clix' in Heroclix. Hammer of Thor and Brave and the Bold have been a blessing to me and the kids. It does turn away new customers, and it does impact sales.

I like the prototype so far. I'd want to see one in person and try it to see how the it clicks.

Thanks for all the feedback. I think I can close the thread before it spirals out of control.

Thanks again,

-Justin