Hello, I been playing for a while but I wouldn't call myself a rules guru and still forget stuff and still get confused.

So first Question

Power combo's in the 2013.

lets use Storm for example.

m10a020 Storm

WINDRIDER: Storm can use Super Senses. When Storm has no action tokens, she can use Energy Shield/Deflection and may use Force Blast as a free action.

Under the new Pac. Say if Storm has either Ppb or Pulsewave showing and Windrider. And she has no token on her Can she then Make a ranged combat action using either Psychic Blast or Pulsewave then Kick Windrider's Force Blast for the knockback effect?

Second Question.

Leap/Climb and Charge and stuff. How can I tell if I can use say L/C with Charge or Phasing?

I think I have a basic understanding but sometimes I get it wrong so just wanted a Link as well to a good Power combo article. Sort of Like that Hard knocks for knock back article that was written.

Since she can use force blast at the time of the attack, I'd say you can have the attack deal knockback. I was wondering a similar thing but for figures which can use force blast as a free action following an attack like Iron Man. If the force blast is conditional, can you still use the knockback effect passively. I'm assuming no since you would probably have to have the force blast available when the damage is being dealt.

As for LC / Phasing and Charge, those two movement powers require a move action to activate and charge lets you move half your speed value but never gives you a move action. So you cannot combo Charge and L/C or Phasing (or anything else that requires a move action).

I would say Windrider would work as you described it. At the time she makes the attack she has no token on her, so she is a character who can use FB. That should allow her to use the free knock-back portion of the power.

Leap/Climb requires a Move action for the IM portion, so it's not going to be compatible with very much. I can't think of any case where L/C and Phasing would work together. The "attack figures at a different elevation" part of L/C will work with the attack part of Charge, but (again) because you need the Power action for Charge and a Move action for L/C's IM those two are not going to work together.

Since her FB is limited to being a free action, she would NOT benefit from the passive part causing knockback.

Since she cannot be given a free action in the middle of PPB or PW then FB is not being used. No knockback. Sorry...

What's wrong about it being a free action? if its a power action and it's used, you couldn't use it again that turn either, its the same difference. Now, if she has an Action Token, then no, she can't use it, so Then no Force Blast. But so long as she's clear, pew pew pew!

And Leap/Climb is a move action of its own, so not compatible with the Power Action that Charge is. BUT it is compatible to Charge, and use Leap/Climb to attack at a different elevation!

Yeah the fb part all you have to look at is, can she use force blast. Yes or no.
No tokens = yes
DMG is knock back
1 or more token = no
DMG is not knock back

She can ONLY use Force Blast as a free action. Since the last sentence of FB does not require an action, but Storm's use of it does require an action, they are not compatible.

TabApp Cyclops on the other hand can use Force Blast as a trait. It does not place conditions on which type of action is required. He knocks back everyone, although it is redundant considering his other trait.

See the thread about Kid Flash...

Ok im a little confused, in that thread they said if the character can USE the power as a free action, then they can USE the power (as with Normal's quote below)

As long as she has no action tokens, she is a character that can use Force Blast. Correct.

The only true difference is instead of activating the main part as a power action, it is now a free action.

I don't think he was responding to the quoted power, but its late and I may be seeing things...

The power says CAN USE E/S/D and MAY USE FB as a free action.

The differences between can use and may use are trivial, but the limitation prevents her from using FB in the typical fashion. She would not be able to FB as a free action and then activate it normally.

Oh, the long awaited PG...

Looks like we need an Orange to answer?

This issue has already been resolved by an orange in another thread:

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=427039

I'm not sure that I agree with what I think normalview is saying in that thread, though. Looking into it.

*facepalm* lol

*Chatters Teeth* Oh man Im confused now! This is one of my wifes Fave Clix to play, so I really have to get this figured out before we play X-Men lol.

And in the article This Storm is brought up and he says this works for storm? So no for Tornado and Yes to Windrider? Is this right? Or did I read it wrong?

Sorry about the double post

After re-reading the posts.

The orange in other thread said yes to both Kid Flash and Storm.

and states the only diffrence is one you give a power action. and in this case Kid Flash and Storm you can use it as free action. Other then that there is no diffrence in the power.

So in a nut shell Yes Storm and Kid Flash can create knock back

Which I agree with this as people state "But for you to have Force Blast you need to be given a free action and cant be given an action during another action."

But its still force blast the basic pac power states you need a power action. however the knockback can happen on any attack. You dont have to activate the basic pac power so why would you have to use a free action to use forceblast.

There is no diffrence between action and free action. So there is no action being given to cause knock back from an attack other then attack then do you have Forceblast Yes or No?

Sorry my words not to good.